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| To allow them to enter these ports, modern sail ships might use lifting keels or have a flatter bottom, no keel fin, with daggerboards to provide that control while being able to lift up and cross into shallower water. | To allow them to enter these ports, modern sail ships might use lifting keels or have a flatter bottom, no keel fin, with daggerboards to provide that control while being able to lift up and cross into shallower water. | ||
| - | === How tippy is it? === | + | == How tippy is it? == |
| Motor vessels can make do with a higher center of gravity and much lower angle of vanishing stability (AVS). This is the point at which the vessel will capsize and stay inverted, thus sinking it. That’s because they don’t have sails making it easy for the wind to tip them. Sailing ships tend to lean more while underway, so they can’t pile containers as high. | Motor vessels can make do with a higher center of gravity and much lower angle of vanishing stability (AVS). This is the point at which the vessel will capsize and stay inverted, thus sinking it. That’s because they don’t have sails making it easy for the wind to tip them. Sailing ships tend to lean more while underway, so they can’t pile containers as high. | ||
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| === River Sailboats === | === River Sailboats === | ||
| - | Here’s a few examples (real or proposed) which would operate on large rivers like the Hudson, hauling cargoes or passengers. (Here’s a neat worldbuilding idea I found in the IWSA Small Windships Publication – the term ‘Sail Freight’ is apparently more common in the US while Sail Cargo is more common in Europe – both terms seem to have gained popularity independently, | + | Here’s a few examples (real or proposed) which would operate on large rivers like the Hudson, hauling cargoes or passengers. (Here’s a neat worldbuilding idea I found in [[https:// |
| **Schooner: | **Schooner: | ||
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| The Eriemax canal barge https:// | The Eriemax canal barge https:// | ||
| - | Known for its somewhat chaotic looking collection of sails, the junk-rigged schooner Summer Wind does tours of Baltimore harbour | + | Known for its somewhat chaotic looking collection of sails, |
| - | Like the ships, these smaller watercraft will likely need some kind of motor for tight maneuvering, | + | Like the ships, these smaller watercraft will likely need some kind of motor for tight maneuvering, |
| ==== Other Wind-Based Propulsion Technologies: | ==== Other Wind-Based Propulsion Technologies: | ||
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| I left these off the list originally because I was focusing on vessels which could operate primarily by wind rather than relying on an onboard power source like hydrogen, oil, or batteries. But if your setting is rich with clean energy (or you’re writing in the messy transition to a more solarpunk world) then these have a few advantages over more traditional sails (which are probably why they’ve seen earlier adoption in modern-day shipping): they’re easier to use and they require less change in how the ship operates compared to sails. They require fewer changes in design (meaning they can keep building massive container ships on basically the same blueprints). Ships using these will sail more like a modern cargo motor vessel so they’re more of a drop-in upgrade rather than a major overhaul in design and operation. | I left these off the list originally because I was focusing on vessels which could operate primarily by wind rather than relying on an onboard power source like hydrogen, oil, or batteries. But if your setting is rich with clean energy (or you’re writing in the messy transition to a more solarpunk world) then these have a few advantages over more traditional sails (which are probably why they’ve seen earlier adoption in modern-day shipping): they’re easier to use and they require less change in how the ship operates compared to sails. They require fewer changes in design (meaning they can keep building massive container ships on basically the same blueprints). Ships using these will sail more like a modern cargo motor vessel so they’re more of a drop-in upgrade rather than a major overhaul in design and operation. | ||
| - | Perhaps your ships stop while underway at charging platforms powered by offshore wind or fuel up on hydrogen generated cleanly using electrolysis, | + | Perhaps your ships stop while underway at [[https:// |
| === Vertical Turbine Ships / Windmill ships: === | === Vertical Turbine Ships / Windmill ships: === | ||
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| === Rotorships === | === Rotorships === | ||
| - | Rotorships use Flettner rotors (huge vertical spinning cylinders with disc end plates) and the Magnus effect to create some kind of sail effect. Lift is generated at right angles to the wind, to drive the ship forwards. I think spin speed is used for control but I’m not certain. | + | Rotorships use Flettner rotors (huge vertical spinning cylinders with disc end plates) and the [[https:// |
| In order for these rotors to function as sails, they need to be spinning, so the ship needs another propulsion source for generating that movement (though doing so takes less energy than moving the ship with a conventional propeller). | In order for these rotors to function as sails, they need to be spinning, so the ship needs another propulsion source for generating that movement (though doing so takes less energy than moving the ship with a conventional propeller). | ||
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| Current kite rigs can be sailed within 50 degrees of the wind, meaning they tack to go upwind, like a ship with sails. Kites can be adjusted manually or by an automated system. | Current kite rigs can be sailed within 50 degrees of the wind, meaning they tack to go upwind, like a ship with sails. Kites can be adjusted manually or by an automated system. | ||
| - | ==== Battery ships? | + | === Battery ships? === |
| Electric ships are looking much more practical than I would have expected – getting there seems to involve reexamining how we use ships, as well as adjusting to use battery tech that makes sense for ships (as opposed to cars) https:// | Electric ships are looking much more practical than I would have expected – getting there seems to involve reexamining how we use ships, as well as adjusting to use battery tech that makes sense for ships (as opposed to cars) https:// | ||
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| This post is mostly about cargo but there’s a ton of sail-based passenger stuff out there. I’ve gathered a few examples and will add more as I find new ones: | This post is mostly about cargo but there’s a ton of sail-based passenger stuff out there. I’ve gathered a few examples and will add more as I find new ones: | ||
| - | A company called Star Clipper is operating three tall ship cruise ships, Star Flyer, Star Clipper, and Royal Clipper. These look like older style clipper ships to me so they might actually be using mostly wind. They seem to be very much operating in the cruise ship format, probably with some associated issues, but they demonstrate that passenger liners could still be viable (and can be quite comfortable) if a change in pace of life or available resources reduces the number of airplanes for that kind of travel. | + | A company called Star Clipper is operating three tall ship cruise ships, |
| - | Seacloud, another sail-based cruise ship | + | [[https:// |
| - | A company called WindStar Cruises also operates a series of cruise-ship-sized ‘motor sailing yachts.’ These have sails but I don’t think these actually rely much on wind, at best I suspect they’re closer to the cargo ships with rotary sails bolted on to save some fuel. One of the naval architects on reddit seemed to confirm this. | + | A company called WindStar Cruises also operates a series of cruise-ship-sized ‘motor sailing yachts.’ These have sails but I don’t think these actually rely much on wind, at best I suspect they’re closer to the cargo ships with rotary sails bolted on to save some fuel. One of the naval architects on reddit |
| - | There are also smaller crafts such as the 38-meter Schooner Mary Day which can carry 28 passengers. This may be duplicate with the schooner example from the Hudson above, but it still represents the potential for sail-based water buses on both rivers and coasts. | + | There are also smaller crafts such as the [[https:// |
| - | River and harbour cleanup boats like Mr. Trash Wheel (even if you hope a more solarpunk society would have less plastic trash, storms and floods can wash all kinds of non-trash stuff into the rivers). | + | River and harbour cleanup boats like [[https:// |
| - | There’s also the scaled-up version of those (though stopping plastic in the rivers appear to still be the critical part) | + | There’s also the scaled-up version of those ([[https:// |
| - | Magazines and publications with lots of good info: | + | === Magazines and publications with lots of good info: === |
| - | The IWSA Small Windships Publication has tons of info on the sub-500GT range of smaller vessels including more info on most of the ships from the examples section (so it would have been really convenient if that was the first thing I found!). You can get a downloadable version here. Developments of Note lists a bunch of goo ships starting on page 10 and Sources for Vessel Plans on page 71 are especially useful but it’s all cool stuff. | + | **[[https:// |
| - | Journal of Merchant Ship Wind Energy – another industry magazine with all kinds of information you might need. | + | **[[https:// |
| - | Wind Propulsion for Ships of the American Merchant Marine (an older resource I haven’t read yet but am including for completeness). | + | **[[https:// |
| - | Cool sails!: | + | === Cool sails!: |
| https:// | https:// | ||
| - | Dynarig sails if you want ultra-modern sailboats and ships (the entire mast rotates) | + | [[https:// |
| - | All the info you could want on the Indosail Rig | + | [[https:// |
| https:// | https:// | ||
| - | Whale Safety | + | === Whale Safety |
| - | Whales are sometimes hit by ships (they sleep just below the surface and don’t know where human shipping lanes are). Some hulls are more dangerous to them than others. Ships with steep, sharp prows and bulbous bows are especially dangerous for whales. If you search for ship hulls and whale safety, you’ll find an unfortunate number of photographs of dead whales draped over those bulbs. | + | Whales are sometimes hit by ships (they sleep just below the surface and don’t know where human shipping lanes are). Some hulls are more dangerous to them than others. Ships with steep, sharp prows and [[https:// |
| One suggestion is to follow some cargo ferry designs and design the prow of the ship so it’s more traditional, | One suggestion is to follow some cargo ferry designs and design the prow of the ship so it’s more traditional, | ||
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| There are also ongoing attempts to map our whale activity and to ensure that human crews are both aware of their presence and actually making efforts to avoid them, but if you’re looking for visuals this might be worth considering. | There are also ongoing attempts to map our whale activity and to ensure that human crews are both aware of their presence and actually making efforts to avoid them, but if you’re looking for visuals this might be worth considering. | ||
| - | Lists of current projects: | + | === Lists of current projects: |
| - | This event has a decent list of current modern sail ships, from basically-modern-cargo-ships-with-sails-bolted-on to completely modernized 90-100% wind driven ships, to largely historical designs still in use. | + | [[https:// |
| https:// | https:// | ||
| As I said up front, I’m not an expert. If you notice any errors, omissions, or just have a cool link to add, by all means let me know! | As I said up front, I’m not an expert. If you notice any errors, omissions, or just have a cool link to add, by all means let me know! | ||
